Three Stages of Painting | a Dialogue between Odd Nerdrum and Jan-Ove Tuv | The Cave of Apelles

Geocentric and Heliocentric level — three stages of painting developed by Nerdrum and initially inspired by thoughts proposed by Tuv.

00:22 The three levels of painting: Ego-, Geo- and Heliocentric
06:02 The sketch as the last layer
07:53 Scraping and digging to get the ultimate expression
09:07 Presentation vs Re-presentation
15:26 The aggression against the Greeks: envy or ideologically wrong?
18:23 Polytheism and a more harmonic life
23:58 Improvement presupposes a standard
28:05 Linear versus Circular time
32:15 Only Greek objects destroyed, or the problem of monotheism
35:36 Painters on the highest level are similar in all times
37:00 Aristotle on telling stories from the underworld
39:12 You cannot make heliocentric images from a specific time
41:39 A good picture is eternal
44:32 Marxist times with marxist rules

Filmed and edited by Bork Nerdrum.

 

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  • Apelles was asked why he touched and retouched his pictures with so much care, to which he replied:
    "I paint for eternity"