Belief in Progress: Blessing or Curse to Classical Painters? | Nerdrum, Hicks and Tuv | The Cave of Apelles

Are we progressing towards a brighter future, or have we lost something important on the way? Should we look at science and poetry through the same lens, or is that one of the reasons why we have ended up with modernism? Philosopher Stephen Hicks sits down with Classical painters, Odd Nerdrum & Jan-Ove Tuv, to discuss the modern belief in progress and whether it is shaping the art world for good or for bad.

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Chapter markers:
00:00 Belief in progress: net negative or corrective to nihilist art world?
10:08 Recycling vs decay and “spiritual racism”
18:36 Cyclical history and modern nihilism
22:24 Only the Greek sculptures are destroyed
25:08 Progress vs unchanging reality
28:53 The universal in the particular
30:15 The fish pudding
35:12 Should painters celebrate scientific progress?
38:15 A piece of burned wood in Leonardo´s hands…
40:58 Melancholy, a gold mine
45:56 Skill, sensuality, desire and poetry
49:09 Meeting people on their weakest point
53:05 Death and resurrection of Rembrandt
57:21 Michelangelo’s Pietá vs David
59:34 They developed their whole life
1:04:09 Made by the same person

This episode featured Stephen Hicks, Odd Nerdrum & Jan-Ove Tuv and was filmed and edited by Bork Nerdrum.

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  • Apelles was asked why he touched and retouched his pictures with so much care, to which he replied:
    "I paint for eternity"