Fine Art’s Expulsion of Craft and Sensuality: Reading Larry Shiner’s “The Invention of Art” | Part 1 | The Cave of Apelles

Bork Nerdrum and Jan-Ove Tuv take a deep-dive into Larry Shiner’s book The Invention of Art (2001), commenting on the contents from the perspective of classical painting and culture.

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Chapter markers:
00:00 “A European invention barely 200 years old”
05:58 The Great Division
10:02 Disinterested contemplation and the new religion
14:06 “The Greeks had no word for it”
17:50 A broader idea of imitation
21:45 Finding “Art” in the ancient Greeks
23:43 No “aesthetics”: The Knidian Aphropdite & Daidalos
25:37 The Middle Ages: “artifici” vs. “artist”
28:32 Rubens the factory owner & Alexander Dumas’ ghost writers
31:30 The Middle Ages and the workshop tradition
37:29 Beauty and categorization in the middle ages
44:47 The status of the painter in the Renaissance
52:45 “Renaissance Rivals” and the categorization of music
55:53 Leonardo’s Madonna and the idea of progress
1:06:07 Projecting “modern” values into the past
1:17:00 “A Proto-Aesthetic”
1:24:20 Charles Batteux and the invention of “fine” arts
1:31:31 The Enlightenment Encyclopedia: fine arts versus reason
1:34:54 From “fine” art to “Art”
1:44:01 Signs of the modern art vs. craft polarity
1:47:49 Value: from painting to painter

This episode featured Bork Nerdrum & Jan-Ove Tuv and was filmed by Myndin Nerdrum & Eduardo Nogueira and was edited by Bork Nerdrum.
The centerpiece was a 19th century reproduction of G. F. Watts’ Hope.

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  • Apelles was asked why he touched and retouched his pictures with so much care, to which he replied:
    "I paint for eternity"