Ep 38 — Nic Thurman on How Modernism Originated with Kant and Hegel and Why Kitsch is a Viable Alternative | The Cave of Apelles

Jan-Ove Tuv sits down with Nic Thurman in tonight’s episode to talk about his video on the Truth About Art, reactions to his commentary and common misconceptions about art history and the reevaluation of kitsch.
You can watch Thurman’s video “The Truth About Art” here:

00:48 Introducing Nic Thurman
04:20 On his video “The Truth About Art”
06:31 Reactions from The Boston Art Podcast
10:13 Hyper realism equals aesthetical indifference?
12:12 Disclosing a historical myth about photography
14:28 How Cezanne and Kandinsky were inspired by Kant and Hegel
23:30 19th century Realism as the first Art style
25:42 Is Kitsch just Pretty and Sweet?
30:45 Two different value systems
32:00 Kitsch values VS. Memorosa dogmas
34:53 Does outdated Art become Kitsch?
36:28 Kitsch is more than Odd Nerdrum
37:52 Let go of your “personal style”
42:00 Comparing the Art religion to Alinsky’s Rules for Radicals
45:22 To those who are uncertain about “Kitsch”
51:00 People think I paint kitchens

The conversation was produced by Bork S. Nerdrum and assisted by Kristine Onsrud.
The centerpiece was a portrait of Nic Thurman by Odd Nerdrum.

Studio visit with Nic Thurman:

And he has previously featured on our show as a monthly guest:

Dean Anthony
Fergus Ryan
Alastair Blain
Anders Berge Christensen
Elizabeth Freeman
Erik Lasky
Herman Borge
Hårek Jordal Andreassen
Jack Entz Warner
Jared Fountain
Jon Harald Aspheim
Jose Luis
Maurice Robbins
Michael Irish
Shaun Roberts
Stacey Evangelista
Tonelise Rugaas
Trym Jordahl
Yngve Hellan

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  • Apelles was asked why he touched and retouched his pictures with so much care, to which he replied:
    "I paint for eternity"