Aristotle’s Ethics for Painters: How an Impersonal Relation to the World Keeps you Vigilant | The Cave of Apelles

Jan-Ove Tuv and Einar Duenger Bøhn sit down discuss Aristotle’s Ethics from the perspective of narrative painting.

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Chapter markers:
00:01 ”Good” is objective
06:58 External values
10:50 Seeking knowledge vs subjectivism
14:20 An impersonal relation to the world
20:38 Improvement through practice
25:54 Originality is destructive
31:31 Know what is (un)important
38:03 Masterworks make you less lonely
42:38 Nerdrum, Hopper, Wyeth and The Great Gatsby
50:23 Aristotle: What we know is eternal
54:18 Plato vs Aristotle — empirical vs abstract thinking?
57:05 The goal of a portrait and the tragedy of Edvard Munch
1:04:33 Who is more “universal”: Freud – Hopper – Wyeth
1:14:29 Anecdote of “Woman Killing an Injured Man”
1:15:37 Friendship with a painting?




This episode featured Einar Duenger Bøhn & Jan-Ove Tuv and was filmed and edited by Bork Nerdrum.
The centerpiece was a 19th century reproduction of G. F. Watts’ Hope.

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  • Apelles was asked why he touched and retouched his pictures with so much care, to which he replied:
    "I paint for eternity"