From Violent Rejection to Adoration | Öde Nerdrum Shares his Whole Beat Experience with Wim Winters | The Cave of Apelles

From Violent Rejection to Adoration | Öde Nerdrum Shares his Whole Beat Experience with Wim Winters

Öde Nerdrum sits down with Wim Winters to talk about Whole Beat, sharing the story of how he discovered the YouTube channel  @AuthenticSound  and the life-changing effects it had on him as a musician and human being.

But is whole beat a bullet proof concept? Nerdrum puts it up to the test by challenging Winters with the main counter-arguments.

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Chapter markers:

00:00 Accepting whole beat is like breaking up a relationship
04:58 You have to drop your expectations
08:14 Give yourself permission to like Whole Beat
14:21 You actually hear the music and it feels faster
19:15 Are pianists loyal to recordings rather than notes?
25:12 Only two ways of reading the metronome
34:06 Giving music back to the amateurs
43:30 Counter-argument 1: Fafner’s text on concert durations
54:33 Playing faster is always easier
57:28 Counter-argument 2: People feel it is too slow
1:09:11 Counter-argument 3: Just play how we feel
1:15:31 Counter-argument 4: A text on Mälzel’s metronome
1:22:34 Counter-argument 5: The missing link
1:30:16 Whole beat is the organic way of counting
1:33:38 If Liszt came back he would not believe it

This episode featured Wim Winters & Öde Nerdrum and was filmed and edited by Bork Nerdrum.
The centerpiece was a 19th century reproduction of G. F. Watts’ Hope.



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