From Violent Rejection to Adoration | Öde Nerdrum Shares his Whole Beat Experience with Wim Winters | The Cave of Apelles

Öde Nerdrum sits down with Wim Winters to talk about Whole Beat, sharing the story of how he discovered the YouTube channel  @AuthenticSound  and the life-changing effects it had on him as a musician and human being.

But is whole beat a bullet proof concept? Nerdrum puts it up to the test by challenging Winters with the main counter-arguments.

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Chapter markers:

00:00 Accepting whole beat is like breaking up a relationship
04:58 You have to drop your expectations
08:14 Give yourself permission to like Whole Beat
14:21 You actually hear the music and it feels faster
19:15 Are pianists loyal to recordings rather than notes?
25:12 Only two ways of reading the metronome
34:06 Giving music back to the amateurs
43:30 Counter-argument 1: Fafner’s text on concert durations
54:33 Playing faster is always easier
57:28 Counter-argument 2: People feel it is too slow
1:09:11 Counter-argument 3: Just play how we feel
1:15:31 Counter-argument 4: A text on Mälzel’s metronome
1:22:34 Counter-argument 5: The missing link
1:30:16 Whole beat is the organic way of counting
1:33:38 If Liszt came back he would not believe it

This episode featured Wim Winters & Öde Nerdrum and was filmed and edited by Bork Nerdrum.
The centerpiece was a 19th century reproduction of G. F. Watts’ Hope.



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    "I paint for eternity"